CLEVELAND, Ohio — Why did voters defeat Issue 1, an constitutional amendment to end gerrymandering?
Trump‘s endorsement, the complexity of the ballot issue, a campaign that couldn’t break through the confusion and an inherent distrust voters have for big-change ballot issues all contributed. We’re talking about the reasons on Today in Ohio.
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Here‘s what else we’re talking about today:
We’re starting again with the election because, let’s face it, what else rises to that level of importance this week. And let’s begin with Issue 1, the proposed amendment to end Ohio gerrymandering. Was the vote against Issue 1 part of a straight ticket vote by Republicans, with margins similar to other statewide races? What did some experts say about why it went down?
Cuyahoga County is a Democratic stronghold, but a significant part of it looks pretty red in the Tuesday election for president. Where did Trump win?
As we all know, Bernie Moreno handily defeated longtime Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown. He will be on the big stage for the next six years. Sabrina Eaton wrote a quick primer about who he is. What do we need to keep in mind?
Probably missed in all the big statewide and national election news was a tight race for a Cuyahoga County Council seat. Which incumbent has the big challenge, and what is the status as of now?
One of the best judges in Cuyahoga County long has been Joan Synenberg, but she’s a Republican in a county that is not. She has been re-appointed to the bench repeatedly but lost her efforts to keep the seat to far less qualified Democratic candidates. She was running one more time to keep her latest appointed seat Tuesday. What happened?
One more election story we did not discuss yesterday. Laura, how was turnout in Cuyahoga County, Northeast Ohio and the state?
Moving on. We know by now that inflammation is terrible for us. It causes heart issues and cancer. A new Ohio study shows a lot of us are doing to ourselves. What are we doing to needlessly cause inflammation?
Speaking of food we should not eat, what big retailer of a lot of that food is now making it a lot easier for you to eat it, along with getting a bunch of other merchandise into your hands?
The fall weather was quite a boon to the favorite theme park of some people on this podcast. How did Cedar Point do in October?
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Chris Quinn (00:01.131)
The election remains the big news of the week. We’re starting the podcast again. Let’s face it, there’s nothing that rises to the level of importance of the election this week. It’s Today in Ohio, the news podcast discussion from Cleveland.com and The Plain Dealer. I’m Chris Quinn here with Laura Johnston, Leila Tasse and Lisa Griffin. Leila, let’s start with issue one, the proposed amendment to end Ohio gerrymandering.
Lisa (00:23.217)
You
Chris Quinn (00:26.335)
Was the vote against issue one part of a straight ticket vote by Republicans with margins similar to other statewide races? What did some experts tell us about why it went down so big?
Leila (00:37.65)
Yeah, you know, the vote, the vote here really showed a similar partisan pattern to other statewide races in Ohio, likely influenced by this straight ticket Republican voting. Experts pointed out that while Ohioans have voiced strong opposition to gerrymandering, the ballot language and campaign around issue one didn’t do enough to really break through that noise. Many voters may have felt confused by the proposal’s complexity while
Others were influenced by endorsements against it from prominent groups like the Ohio Chamber of Commerce and Donald Trump himself. The measure was led by bipartisan group. And as everyone listening is aware, it aimed to create a citizen led redistricting commission to prevent politicians from drawing their own maps. But experts say that voter confusion played a big role with some voters misinterpreting what a no vote actually meant or, or just defaulting to a no vote on a complex issue.
Lisa (01:14.449)
listening. It aimed to create a citizen led redistricting commission to prevent politicians from drawing their own maps. But experts say that voter confusion played a big role with some voters misinterpreted and got a no vote action, then a vote in the process of defaulting to a no vote on a complex issue. There was also lingering distrust, seems, because prior attempts to rebuild redistricting in Ohio haven’t been
Leila (01:33.12)
There was also lingering distrust, it seems, because prior attempts to reform redistricting in Ohio haven’t delivered. So political consultants noted that issue one’s messaging might’ve been too detailed, missing an easy to understand appeal, like politicians shouldn’t pick their voters. I mean, now reform advocates, including former Ohio Chief Justice, Maureen O’Connor, say that they’re ready to keep up the fight. And Governor Mike DeWine suggested Ohio could consider.
an approach similar to Iowa’s redistricting process.
Chris Quinn (02:05.181)
I, the one thing that I really resonated in what people said to Bob Higgs who wrote the story was how bad the messaging was by the campaign. even when we had Maureen O’Connor and the team talk to the editorial board, I didn’t think they ever boiled down the message into something that wasn’t soup. And that’s what it needed. I remember going through the top half of it, cause I was writing a column about issue one and I was trying to boil that down into something understandable.
Leila (02:22.923)
Right.
Chris Quinn (02:33.663)
and it probably took me two hours to do it. And I sent it to Lahr and said, is this clear? When you have something that complicated, you really need good messaging. And they went way too simple. Let’s get the elected officials out and have citizens do it. While the other side was saying, look at this mess. These people never can be pulled out and there’s no accountability. It was so easy to torpedo it. And the messaging on the other side just was not strong. I don’t know that anything would have mattered. think this would.
It went down by such a large margin. think it was going down pretty much no matter what. And it’ll be interesting to see whether the Republicans live up to their promise now, including Mike DeWine, like you said, Leila, to come up with another solution or if they figured, man, this went down big. Let’s just keep it the way it is and stay gerrymandered.
Leila (03:20.552)
Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. I mean, this this really highlights kind of the ongoing question for reform advocates. How do you craft not just the right policy, but also the right pitch, especially in high turnout elections where straight ticket voting dominates? I perhaps the key lesson here is that effective reform campaigns need to prioritize simplicity and really resonate with voter values, focusing on core ideas like fairness and accountability over over the process details.
Lisa (03:28.769)
the right policy but also the right approach especially in high turnout elections. Perhaps the key lesson here is that that there was a lot of
Chris Quinn (03:51.475)
Look, you also have a huge challenge in this state. When you look at the patterns, the cities are very concentrated democratic strongholds and the whole rest of the state is red. And when you’re trying to draw balanced districts or proportionate districts, it’s not easy because of the way we’re so compacted. I don’t know what the fix is. Clearly, the voters didn’t like this one.
Lisa (03:52.538)
So,
Leila (04:02.134)
Mm-hmm.
Chris Quinn (04:18.729)
I know there are people that are saying it was too confusing for them to understand. I’m not sure I buy that. They understood the issues last year pretty clearly. I think they just didn’t like the way this was going to work. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Cuyahoga County is a Democratic stronghold as we know, but a significant part of it looks pretty red in the Tuesday election for president. Lisa, where did Trump win?
Lisa (04:44.369)
Yeah, it seems like it was concentrated at the southern edge of Cuyahoga County. So Kamala Harris did win Cuyahoga with 65.3 % of the vote. But there are 59 cities in Cuyahoga County. 18 of them were carried by Trump and the Republicans. So the very reddest were Valley View, 65.4 % voted for Trump.
Independence right next door to them, 60.4 % was number two. And then close behind them was North Royalton, 58 % for Trump and Walton Hills, 57.3%. The other cities that went red, Parma, Seven Hills, Strongsville, Brexville, Brook Park, Middleburg Heights, Broadview Heights, Olmsted Township, and they all, you know, voted 50 % to 55 % for Trump. Now the bluest cities, no surprises here,
actually Warransville Heights was the bluest city. 94.8 % of people there voted for Harris. Shaker was behind at 88.1, Cleveland Heights 85.8, and then Cleveland 77.8 voted for Harris.
Chris Quinn (05:51.939)
I was surprised looking at the map, you do have to remember when you look at the margins, they’re not gigantic. And in the rest of the county, the margins are pretty huge in favor of Harris. But I don’t know. And Laura, you can check me on this. I don’t know if any previous map has showed that kind of a Republican stronghold in the southern part of the county.
Lisa (06:04.261)
Mm-hmm.
Laura (06:15.778)
think it’s been growing. mean, we’ve talked for years about how Strongsville has become this Republican domination. And I think over the last decade, that spread east across the county, we had a Middleburg Heights, I believe the mayor was talking in our county profile last week about turning Middleburg Heights red. And so I think the Republican Party has been working and we talk in the newsroom, we talk in this podcast about people moving toward places.
where others feel the same way. And I think once you’ve established an area is leaning one way or another, then more people gravitate to that if they’re moving to the area. So I think it makes sense that especially the way Ohio is going and you look at Medina County and some of Northern Selma County and Portage County, you’re just going to see that creep up.
Lisa (07:06.313)
I do want to point, no, I do want to point out that there were a couple of like pale red counties in my neck of the woods and they actually border Geauga County. So in Highland Heights and Mayfield Heights, it was very close call 50 % for Trump to 49.5 for Harris and in both cities. So the red is starting to creep over from Geauga County as well. And I do want to mention that, you know, where we all live, all of us on the podcast, all of
Chris Quinn (07:06.392)
Trump aside, go ahead Lisa.
Lisa (07:33.509)
We all lived in blue counties or blue cities rather.
Chris Quinn (07:35.969)
blue cities. Look, Trump aside, because let’s face it, he’s the worst human being to ever be president or rise in our public sphere. But just take that out of the picture. It’s a healthy thing to have a second party growing and influencing Cuyahoga County. We’ve been paralyzed by the power of the Democratic Party. It’s a lethargic, monstrous thing that’s just controlled all.
And to have a second party growing to challenge that would be healthy because I think the Democrats would have to work a little bit harder to do a good job. We got a lot of Democrats in power in Cuyahoga County who are lazy, useless politicians just getting fat on the trough. Let’s get some competition so that people have a choice. How many Democrats ran unopposed for judge and things like that? A lot.
Lisa (08:29.722)
most of them.
Chris Quinn (08:31.049)
Yeah, that’s and that’s not healthy. I mean, I like to see that. And I don’t like to see Cuyahoga County voting for Donald Trump. mean, that guy is just a disaster. It’s amazing. He’s going to be president again. But apart from that, I think this could be a good trend. You know, listening to Today in Ohio, as we all know, Bernie Moreno handily defeated longtime Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown. He will be on the big stage for the next six years. Sabrina Eaton wrote a quick
primer about him because he’s completely unqualified for this job. What do we need to keep in mind, Laura?
Laura (09:03.638)
Right. This is his first political foray as a U.S. Senator, which that’s Vance too, right? Like nothing, nothing leading up to that. So Bernie Moreno was born in 1967 in Bogota, Colombia. He was a lavish generational wealth of a family. His dad was a doctor, high ranking government official, similar to a U.S. secretary of health. And he had an aristocratic upbringing in multiple homes with farmland and staff.
Then he has said that his mother decided to move to the United States, so her seven kids didn’t grow up spoiled, and they lived in a two-bedroom condo in Florida, which is really interesting and raises all sorts of questions. But he became a citizen when he turned 18. He worked for Saturn. He developed this interest in cars because his dad really liked them. And then he spent years working for a Boston area mega car dealer, then bought this Mercedes-Benz dealership in North Olmsted in 2005. He had a bunch of lawsuits.
A lot of them publicized by Sherrod Brown, his competitor in the Senate race, but he had a really large role in Cleveland. It doesn’t seem to gel well with who he is now, but he was on all sorts of boards. He was trying to build the block chain industry in Cleveland, had this massive convention. We wanted to call it block land. I mean, there’s even a plan, I believe, for Tower City at one point and was really a community.
mover and shaker until he decided that he wanted to be very Trump acolyte and run for office.
Chris Quinn (10:36.659)
Yeah, I the origin story in Florida has been debunked a good bit by by some other media. They showed that they didn’t really come to this country without much money, and they lived in a two bedroom place for a very short period of time. His dad was very quickly a leading medical authority in the state of Florida. But good story. Good to see I he he Bernie Murnau sticks his foot in his mouth regularly.
Laura (11:03.042)
Right.
Chris Quinn (11:03.999)
I mean, I wrote the story about the idiotic texts he sent me. There were people that were yelling at me because I didn’t bring that back toward the end because they thought people should see it. we’ll have to see if he can curb that irrepressible instinct of his to say stupid things.
Laura (11:07.63)
Mm-hmm.
Laura (11:13.634)
I mean he…
Laura (11:20.226)
He got all sorts of flack over calling it a little crazy that suburban women base their votes on abortion rights. That got all sorts of interest and exposure. I don’t think it mattered in the end because he had Trump’s blessing. Trump won by such a big margin in Ohio. Marino beat Sherrod Brown with something like a five point margin, which is much less than the Trump Harris.
I don’t know that there’s anything that would have changed people’s minds here.
Chris Quinn (11:53.269)
Okay, you’re listening to Today in Ohio. Probably missed in all the big statewide and national election news was a quite tight race for Cuyahoga County Council. One seat. Which incumbent has the big challenge, Leila? And what is the status as of right now?
Leila (12:09.232)
The tightest race in Cuyahoga County right now is for the District 6 council seat where Republican incumbent Jack Schron is facing a major challenge from Democrat Robert Schlepper Jr. Schlepper is currently leading by just 17 votes. It’s 30,393 to Schron’s 30,376. And that’s according to the unofficial results, of course, but with absentee and provisional ballots still to be counted, this race is
still a little ways from being over and an automatic recount could be triggered if the final margin is less than 0.5%. Election officials are still counting absentee ballots that were postmarked by November 4th as well as any provisional ballots from election day, which could make a big difference in such a close contest. Both candidates are preparing for a recount if needed. And while Schlepper is optimistic, especially since provisional ballots tend to favor Democrats,
Schron isn’t conceding. He’s saying we’re just going to wait and play this process out. If Schron ultimately loses this, this could really signal a shift in priorities for that district, which includes some of the southeastern suburbs. Schlepper has been, you know, he campaigned on tackling brain drain and economic development, and he pledged to support social programs aimed at reducing recidivism aligning with County Executive Chris Renane’s vision of having a jail campus with integrated services and things like that. A Schlepper victory would
leave just one Republican on this 11 member council. And that really highlights an ongoing democratic shift in the county.
Chris Quinn (13:43.571)
Well, I normally I’d say this is a shame because they should have more Republicans on the council because you want the contrary voices. But Shron is a lump. mean, there’ve been so many issues where you hoped he would be a voice of reason against the entrenched Democrats and he just sits there going along. So I don’t know, a new face might be exactly what we need on that council. Something needs to shake it up because they’re just not doing a great job. I’ve been so disappointed at the number of
incumbents that when Pernell Jones was unopposed right on the ballot right with the council president yeah
Leila (14:17.268)
Yeah, that’s true. the council did get a couple new members though, right? So maybe there is going to be a turn of the tide when it comes to.
Chris Quinn (14:26.207)
We can only hope. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. One of the best judges in Cuyahoga County long has been Joan Sinenberg, but she’s a Republican in a county that is not. She’s been reappointed to the bench repeatedly, but has lost her efforts to keep the seat to far less qualified Democratic candidates. Lisa, she was running one last time to keep her latest appointed seat. What happened?
Lisa (14:51.345)
Well, she’s now an elected judge, not an appointed judge. Joan Sinnenberg didn’t beat her opponent, Darryl T. Denny, by 52 % to 47.9 % with all precincts reporting. Joan Sinnenberg has spent 18 years on the common please bench in a heavily Democratic county, as you said. She lost to Brian Mooney, a Democrat in 2022 in a very close election that actually required a recount.
But she was appointed by Governor Mike DeWine in December to fill the current seat that was left open by Judge Deborah Turner’s leaving the bench. So kudos to her.
Chris Quinn (15:30.963)
She’s been great. I’ve always felt bad that she loses just because a party I remember when she first won she won that first shit her first election when she ran she won in large part because Brent Larkin May who was at the Plain Dealer he was the editorial page director Let a campaign because the person running against her was a complete pretender had changed their name to Play the name game and he just went to town to help her get elected and the voters saw it
But then after that, she lost to kind of loser Democrats just because of the domination. So cool that she’s age limited now, but it’s so cool that in her final run, the voters finally saw the value, even though she’s Republican. Because remember, everybody walking into the booth had the opportunity to be given that idiotic Democratic voting card. And so many people just go by that. But the truth won out. The good judge will stay in the seat.
Lisa (16:30.577)
Well, I did see an interesting, no, I just saw an interesting trend. saw a lot of Harris Wall signs with Jones-Sinnenberg signs in the same yard. So I thought that was kind of interesting.
Chris Quinn (16:31.083)
You’re listening.
Chris Quinn (16:41.075)
Yeah, that’s I’m just tickled that it worked because so many times we’ve been disappointed to see her lose. She was always the standout candidate. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. One more election story we didn’t discuss yesterday. Laura, how was turnout in Cuyahoga County, Northeast Ohio and the state?
Laura (17:00.142)
Well, in Cuyahoga County, was actually less than a lot of places. 63 % was the countywide total. And in part, that’s because Cleveland was 46 % across the city. Some precincts were as low as less than 30%, where some suburbs were as high as 80%. That’s Bay Village. So I think that was the biggest in the county, a lot of in the 70s. So we had a good turnout elsewhere.
Statewide turnout was about 70%. That’s right in line with Ashtabula County. Geauga County had 80%. Lake was 77%. Lorraine was 70%. Medina 79%. Summit 71%.
Chris Quinn (17:40.299)
I wish I understood why people don’t vote. If you take the trouble to register to vote, which you have to update at least every, I think, four years, why don’t you go vote? Why don’t you have your voice? For people that aren’t registered, I get it, they have no interest. But these are people that profess to have an interest. Why wouldn’t they vote?
Laura (18:00.942)
All I can think is they don’t feel like it matters. going into this race, we had been told over and over again, Trump has Ohio locked up. So maybe they thought, because of the electoral college, my vote does not count. Obviously, there are a whole lot of things on that ballot, especially in Cleveland. There was this Cleveland schools tax, which passed overwhelmingly, but also the US Senate race issue one. But people don’t necessarily think about everything aside from
the presidential race and maybe they just thought it doesn’t matter.
Chris Quinn (18:34.475)
Well, we should remember to. I everybody’s the people who voted for Trump are all reveling in that they voted for a winner. But throughout this election, the sentiment on both sides of the political spectrum was these candidates aren’t what we would look for necessarily. Some people would argue and say, no, he was a good candidate. She was a good candidate. But you saw some sentiment reported from voters that they really didn’t like the choices. And I wonder if that’s why some people stayed home.
Leila (19:04.32)
mean, there’s always going to be people who feel that way. You’re never going to please everyone, but I don’t know. We can debate about this afterward, I guess.
Laura (19:12.238)
But Cleveland is generally a Democratic stronghold, right? So they probably were not excited about Donald Trump just based on the voting history. And we did not see a lot of get out the vote. We saw some, I mean, I know there was some CMSD roll into the votes. We saw some last minute stuff, but not a lot of, hey, your vote counts, get out there, and not a lot of messaging over and over and over.
Chris Quinn (19:24.705)
No.
Chris Quinn (19:36.503)
Well, one of the big complaints of the Democratic Party in Ohio is it just has failed repeatedly to build on-the-ground organizations across the state to get some excitement. But they don’t really have a great message in Ohio either. It’s another… The Democratic Party in Cuyahoga County in Ohio is not an effective party anymore. I wonder if we just need to start a third party, right? The Do Something Party.
Laura (19:56.834)
Yeah.
We’re going to be looking at the Democratic Party in Ohio and what this election says about them. So that’s to come.
Chris Quinn (20:09.195)
Look, Amy Acton has talked of possibly being a candidate for governor on the Democratic ticket in Ohio. After looking what happened Tuesday, would anybody try? It looks like it’s impossible now for a Democrat to win in this state because the messaging and everything has failed so badly. It’s going to take somebody very special to be able to overcome that sentiment.
Laura (20:33.848)
So she is a very unique, you know, human being in Ohio and has a ton of redic name recognition, but maybe she tries that independent. Maybe it’s the health first party. I don’t know.
Chris Quinn (20:43.963)
Yeah, yeah, I don’t know. She is. She’s charismatic and I think she could energize a whole lot of young people. But, but I don’t know in this state right now. I don’t know. It’s a challenge. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Moving on from the election. We know by now that inflammation is terrible for us. It causes heart issues and cancer and a new Ohio study shows a lot of us are doing it to ourselves. Layla, what are we doing to needlessly cause ourselves this inflammation?
Leila (21:13.622)
Yeah, this is a new study from Ohio State University and it says that nearly 60 % of Americans are eating diets that promote inflammation that puts them at a higher risk for heart disease, cancer and other chronic conditions. The foods fueling this inflammation include things like red and processed meats, sugar sweetened drinks, high salt foods and fried foods. And for some groups, the numbers are even higher. Black Americans,
men, and people with lower income and education levels were more likely to have these pro-inflammatory diets. Researchers explain that even if you’re eating plenty of fruits and vegetables, consuming too much alcohol or red meat can tip your diet into inflammatory territory. On the flip side, anti-inflammatory foods like leafy greens, whole grains, berries, beans, and fatty fish can help protect against chronic inflammation.
Access is a big issue here though. Many people face barriers to eating a less inflammatory diet, especially with healthier foods often being more expensive and harder to find in certain areas. The study’s lead author, Rachel Meadows, suggests thinking of anti-inflammatory foods as tools for better health rather than simply labeling some foods as bad.
Chris Quinn (22:27.383)
It’s no surprise in this. mean, the foods that are bad or foods we’ve always known are bad. I guess what’s really interesting is how much damage it’s doing to our bodies invisibly that we don’t consider and ultimately end up in the hospital for heart disease and things like that.
Lisa (22:28.528)
you
Lisa (22:45.777)
And you’re going to pry my sausage from my cold dead hands.
Leila (22:45.781)
I’m actually-
So funny, Lisa. I actually I’m surprised that the numbers only 60%. I mean, I’m certain the numbers are they got to be higher than that. And this is a society that has become completely dependent on highly processed foods. And it wouldn’t surprise me if that actual figure is closer to 85%. I mean, you know, even if you have a highly vegetarian diets likely you’re eating some red meat or going, you know, having drinks or whatever. And those are inflammatory foods and no one’s perfect.
I’m surprised that 40 % of people are deemed to have a low, low inflammatory diet. That’s not in America.
Chris Quinn (23:25.225)
Yeah, I also think for some people it’s comfort food. I bet a lot of people were eating these bad foods this week. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. Speaking of food we should not eat, what big retailer of a lot of that food is now making it a lot easier for you to eat it along with getting a bunch of other merchandise into your hands? Lisa.
Leila (23:31.616)
Yeah, right. We deserve it.
Lisa (23:49.037)
It’s Walmart. They have launched their in-home delivery service in the Cleveland area, which is part of an expansion of that program into 25 new cities, including Baltimore, Portland, and San Diego. That will bring their total of in-home delivery cities to 80. So customers can place orders on the Walmart app for eligible items, and they can set a delivery window for that. They must, though, buy a Walmart Plus membership.
at $49 for the first year and then they can add the service to their account for $7 a month or $40 a year. This will create 75 new jobs in the Cleveland area. They will offer some optional interior deliveries. They would have a one-time access code to your garage or your door to deliver your groceries inside. And then the workers will be wearing a camera vest so they can take pictures to confirm the delivery and so forth.
Chris Quinn (24:43.127)
So all those people, all those people that wanna sit in their basements and troll the internet can now get Cheetos delivered straight to them instead of having to go pick them up. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. The fall weather was quite a boon to the favorite theme park, some of the people on this podcast. Laura, did Cedar Point do in glorious October?
Lisa (24:43.203)
No word on when it’s going to start though.
Laura (25:05.122)
I apologize to Layla for getting to answer this question, but it went really well. So attendance at Cedar Point and other Six Flags parks, so all of their in the group, now that they’re one company, jumped 20 % in October. 6.5 million visitors across all the parks. Overall, vegetation for the third quarter was down slightly, about 3 % because of hurricanes, but that’s a huge number and it really is because of all the
warm weekends that we had probably. The company’s on pace to deliver $50 million in cost savings this year after they merged another $70 million in 2025. They eliminated duplicate overhead expenses. They’ve got the advantages of scale and the reduction of third-party professional services. But they want to spend a bunch of money, about $500 million for capital improvements next year and in 2026 to add attractions that boost demand and increase attendance.
Chris Quinn (26:02.113)
So tell me, if you take the day off weeks ahead of time to take your kids to Cedar Point, and then on that morning you get up and it’s gonna be a rainy day, do you still go?
Laura (26:06.147)
Mm-hmm.
Laura (26:14.094)
It depends. I mean, it depends on what the forecast looks like and if you’ve got a pass and if you’re paying for it or not. think sometimes you can go and that rain will keep a lot of people away. So the lines are a lot less and you might get rained on. But if you were going to get wet on one of those rides anyways, you don’t really care. Now the parks are only open on the weekends in October.
Chris Quinn (26:15.083)
No?
Leila (26:16.148)
No, no.
Laura (26:36.75)
I don’t know, people might just wake up, look at the day and be like, let’s go to Cedar Point because they’ve got their hallow weekends that people love that scary stuff in the fall. So yeah, it’s probably a combination.
Chris Quinn (26:47.777)
But it is, but it is, weather plays a giant role. Leila, you’re just thinking, no way, I’m gonna stand out there and get rain done.
Laura (26:51.63)
absolutely.
Leila (26:54.166)
have you ever ridden a roller coaster in the rain? You could go blind. Like the rain pelts your eyeballs so hard, it’s terrible. I actually one time when I was meeting some cousins at Cedar Point who had never been there before and it was gonna rain but we had no choice because they were driving in from out of town, I brought goggles for everyone. And they were, because I, both.
Chris Quinn (26:57.943)
Thank
Chris Quinn (27:15.434)
Wow.
Laura (27:16.876)
Like, swim goggles or ski goggles?
Leila (27:19.572)
I brought everything I could find for eye protection and they were laughing so hard at me and I’m like, guys, okay, go ahead. Let’s ride this ride. You’ll see. by the second coaster, they had those goggles on. We have photos of it, like in the of ride photos. I’ll bring it in for you guys. We’re sitting there all with goggles on. I mean, because really your face hurts so bad when the rain starts hitting you at those high speeds.
Chris Quinn (27:27.104)
you
Laura (27:39.277)
Love it
Leila (27:46.454)
So no, I avoid Cedar Point when it’s raining. Overcast is beautiful because the weather, you’re not getting baked under the sun, but now weather’s important.
Chris Quinn (27:56.039)
you can write a book about the Cedar Point, the way people write books about Disney, the way you know this knowledge. You’re listening to Today in Ohio. That’s it for Thursday. It feels like it should be. That’s it for Friday, but we will be back tomorrow talking about the news. Thanks, Lara. Thanks, Leila. Thanks, Lisa. Thank you for listening to this podcast.