Ranking Andrés Giménez on our Mt. Rushmore of Cleveland’s defensive middle infielders (Podcast)

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Joe Noga 0:04 Welcome back to the Cleveland Baseball Talk podcast. I’m Joe Nogue, joined by Paul Owens Olynsey free agency in full swing right now. As as teams are are able to go out and and sign players. Not a lot of movement going on, but we do have a an in depth rundown of the top 30 free agents available out there. Not a lot of hope or promise that the Guardians are going to be in on a lot of these guys in terms of, you know, paying some of these top salaries, but it’s still interesting to take a look at who’s out there, who’s available and where they might. End up. The obviously the the marquee name on the list is is Juan Soto. And once he signs. And once he figures out where he’s gonna be playing for the next, you know, 10 years plus, I think things will start to fall into line with a lot more of these guys. What was your take in terms of, you know, running through this list of free agents who are out there and and seeing what kind of talent could be shifting around the league as we move forward for the next several years?

Paul Hoynes 1:10 Joe definitely wants, you know Juan Soto as we saw first hand in the ALCS is the kind of the class of the class. And the thing about him, Joe, is only 26. You know that. That’s amazing to me. I mean, he seems like he’s been around forever. And you know this guy? What he plays for one year for 31 million with the Yankees last season helps him reach the World Series. And now the Sky’s the limit for this guy. I’m not sure where he’s going to go, but the thing I found, you know, interesting is all the, you know, most of these free agents, they were either, you know, they were all on one year deal. You know, one year top heavy deals and it seems like you know, I guess to me every team you know just went to arbitration with these guys, signed them on one year deals knew they were going to lose them as free agents but weren’t willing to you know.

Joe Noga 2:07 Make that long term commitment. Yeah. And as far as Sodo goes, I mean, you’re right. The 26 years old means he’s going to be looking for. A deal of, you know, something like 10 years plus or whatever. But you’re talking to some of these other guys are a little more veteran guys like Alex Bregman. He’s not gonna be looking for you know. A decade’s worth of a guarantee. There. So there’s there’s a little bit more flexibility or you know the there’s a, a, A sort of a wider net for the the teams that could be in on a a guy like Alex Bregman, a guy like even a T. Hernandez or Pete Alonso, who are a little bit older than. Soto, it’s just the the age thing gets thrown off. Do you think Soto is is gonna challenge Otani’s record for, you know, the the $700 million that that he signed for and and do you think a contract like what Otani got with all that deferred money is something that would be a possibility for for? Soto upfront, you know.

Paul Hoynes 3:16 Scott Boros is his agent and just from from. You know, just from past experience track record. I mean I I think you know Scott Burrows is not going to defer that much money. I mean, he’s going to, and I’m sure Soto wants some money up front as well. At least some of it. I mean, what you know, Ohtani did last season was, you know, remarkable, really an exceptional thing. You know, he he really kind of put his, you know? Yes, he got $700 million, but he put the team first in that regard, so. So they could continue to build on that and wouldn’t it be ironic, Joe, if because of that they were the Dodgers are able to pursue Soto and you know they’re going to at least kick the tires on them.

Joe Noga 4:04 Yeah. And that’s one of the reasons he did that was that they could pursue, you know, a guy like Yamamoto or other free agents. I think that that very top tier like like Soto might still be out of the the price range for the Dodgers this time, but you never know. It really does seem like the two best contenders are the two New York teams. What would it mean if Soto were to jump over to the Yankees and sort of shift the balance of power within the city of New York? Over to, you know, from the Yankees to the Mets.

Paul Hoynes 4:38 Yeah, that would be great. That would be a, you know that would that would be.

Joe Noga 4:41 It would be great, wouldn’t it?

Paul Hoynes 4:45 Think about the tabloids would do in the New York Post and they would. They would have a headline every day. It would be that. That’s like a blood feud, Joe. That would, you know, the I don’t know that that would make the subway series very, very interesting. Yeah, that would be. That’ll keep. That’ll keep the baseball writers writing for the the whole winter, if that, if that’s the way it works.

Joe Noga 5:11 Yeah. And as far as you know, soda goes obviously the the season, he had the postseason, he had drove up his price tremendously. And, you know, he was already starting off, you know, pretty high so. Will be interesting to see where that that works out last take on Soto. Just when do you expect maybe a a a deal to be reached? Do you expect it during the winter meetings? After the winter meetings, you know we’ve seen something like that the last few years. Where those top guys? Come out of the winter meetings without a deal in place, but it happens sometime shortly after.

Paul Hoynes 5:47 And I think this is going to be a long, drawn out affair. Scott Boros is going to, you know, make sure he goes to every team. That’s possible that that has an interest in Soto and he like he he doesn’t mind waiting. You know, Boros likes to, you know, run out the clock. So I think that’s. I don’t think this is going to end anytime soon.

Joe Noga 6:09 I like that you had #2 on your your rankings of these these MLB free agents Anthony Santander, a former Cleveland farmhand. A rule five pick by Baltimore, who really blossomed and, you know, had had he, you know, been able to come through Cleveland and and stay on the path here. He might have solved some of the problems that the the Guardians have had over the years. Looking for a power hitting outfield? A corner outfielder? Of course, 235 with 44 home runs and 102 Rbi’s last year. Can Baltimore afford to lose him? And still still consider themselves a contender to hang with the Yankees and the AL East.

Paul Hoynes 6:54 Yeah, that’s a, that’s a big, big ask. I think they that’s a big hole to that. They’d have to fill. I think they’re going to have to go to the mat and try to keep this guy. They also have Corbin Burns on the free agent market. Joe there. You know, so they’re top their top power hitter and their ace are free agents. If the Orioles watch those guys walk, you know that that that’s going to put a crimp in their style. I think, fortunately for the Orioles, they’re under new ownership. And I think. They’ll they’ll recognize it. They got to keep at least one of those guys. Joe, don’t you think?

Joe Noga 7:29 Yeah, they’ll. They’ll make a real big effort to to do that. And I think maybe Santander might have a a better chance of sticking around just because of the he was a part of what they built in Baltimore and he was there. You know, when they were awful and and now he’s he’s there, sort of. When they were the toast of the ales throughout the the entire season. So, you know, I think maybe a better chance of of him coming back to to Baltimore because he wants to more than just what they would offer for him. You’ve got Pete Alonso on this list in your top five. He’s #4 and. An interesting, you know aspect of that is if if the Yankees do wind up losing Soto, you know it could be Alonso as the as the sort of the plan BI think they’ve got to have several plan BS for. Not if they if they if they don’t get. So. But if soda goes over to the Mets, then taking a long time Mets power hitter would would probably be a good replacement for them.

Paul Hoynes 8:33 Wow, I I didn’t even think about that. And with Rizzo. You know, Rizzo being Anthony Rizzo being a free agent. You know, the first base is definitely open. So yeah, that’s that would be. Now that would be interesting. That’s that’s, you know, really you take, you take my guy, I take your guys. So yeah, that would that would. That would not endear the Mets to the Yankees or the Yankees to the Mets. That’s that’s perfect.

Joe Noga 8:59 Yeah, right. And and I can really envision that being the scenario, the the moment Santander or I’m sorry, the moment Soto signs in with the Mets. You, you got to believe the Yankees go all in on on Pete Alonso. After that, Willie Adamas, the the shortstop in in Milwaukee. What do you think the chances are that that he winds up in a? There are several places that that are desperate for for shortstops. You mentioned the Dodgers there. That’s definitely a spot where he could end up.

Paul Hoynes 9:35 Yeah, no doubt about it. He’s the best shortstop on the market. I really like this guy, Joe. You know, he’s really he’s always played well against Cleveland the last couple years when the Guardians have played Milwaukee, he’s, he seems to hit a big home run two or three home runs every series. And that was a great trade by the Brewers to get him from Tampa Bay. And the same, you know, the front office of Tampa Bay is now in Los Angeles. So you know, I would think, you know, they’ve got an inside track on on, on Adamas to you know if they want him to go get him, you know, what about Boston, Joe, do you think that are they in the market for a short stamp?

Joe Noga 10:06 Mm hmm. Yeah, well, they’ve got Trevor story I believe is is out there, right.

Paul Hoynes 10:25 Yeah, they could move him to second base, right or?

Joe Noga 10:26 But right he was. He was hurt and you would think. You know, having signed the shortstop last last offseason, that they wouldn’t be in the market, but you, you never know, that’s a possibility there and a good fit too. You would think with the DOMS with this familiarity of the in the AL East, but we’ll see where where he ends up. We haven’t really talked about other than Burns. We haven’t really talked about pitching, but you’ve got Blake Snow. Here number six on your list. I would probably consider him the top available free agent pitcher on the market right now, just based on the the way he came on in the second-half of the season last year he was. He was probably the most dominant pitcher out there. You know the the competition will be, you know, high for Blake Snell just because the, you know, everybody needs starting pitching everybody out there needs an ace and and Blake Snell would be that for any team probably. Well, well out of the the Guardians price range in terms of anything like that. But you know, in a in a, in a different world, we could dream of seeing the guardians go after pitching in some capacity and and a guy like Blake Snell being, you know, a. Lead dog on their rotation.

Paul Hoynes 11:44 Yeah, just a kind of a dominant picture. We saw him a lot when he was with Tampa Bay. You know, he scares me a little bit, Joe, because he can never. He’s he’s he’s had a lot of injuries. You know this past season and you know, waiting and waiting and waiting until to, you know, he kind of dangled in the wind until signing with the Giants in March and really kind of set him back, came probably missed all spring training, probably came back too soon. Got. Was injured a couple times, but still, like you said, came out in the second-half through a no hitter. Against the Reds dominant pitcher, but you know his his his injury history would really that that worries me a bit.

Joe Noga 12:29 Yeah, and. And a lot of guys out on this list are are are like that in terms of injuries in the past. You know, we, we, Shane Bieber’s on your list, we talked about him in a minute, but guys like Walker Buehler, who’ve dealt with injuries N. Ivaldi, who’s dealt with injuries, these are all guys and and Max fried coming off an injury. All all these guys are, you know, have have great potential. But there’s a there’s a lot of risk in in terms of the upside to some of these. Jack Flaherty’s on this list. I don’t see him going anywhere but the Dodgers. There’s he’s he’s gotta be going back. There was was a thrill for him to be traded there from Detroit this year and and win a World Series with them, but he’s a he’s a local boy in in, in Lai think they they’ll probably you know be. Over backwards to get him to re sign.

Paul Hoynes 13:18 They did a nice job for him, you know? We saw him. The Guardian saw too much of him this past season. What three or four times? How many starts that he make? It seem like every every time they played the Tigers he was starting and did a nice job. Then he goes over to the Dodgers. Goes six and two in 10 starts and you know, then pitches well in the postseason form, too. So yeah, I I would think the Dodgers would really make an effort to keep him.

Joe Noga 13:46 Yeah, an interesting guy on this list. #10 Thi Oscar Hernandez. He’s 32 years old, outfielder 23.5 million in in 2024, you know. Who knows what what kind of deal he’s looking for as far as you know, if if he would want to leave the Dodgers, the the connection there is he’s he’s real good friends and real close with Jose Ramirez. I know that Jose Ramirez would be, you know. Probably at the front of the line. Banging the drum for the the Guardians to try and sign somebody like Tasker Hernandez, but not not the most likely scenario. Just to to to connect the dots there though I I think he would make Jose a very happy man.

Paul Hoynes 14:34 Oh man, if they could get him on a one year deal, Joe. Just like he signed with the Dodgers. You know, that’s what they need. They need some power, you know, obviously a big strikeout guy. He’s going to swing and miss a lot, but he’s also going to do some damage and that’s what they need. They need another another, you know, kind of big bopper in there, decent defensive player. I don’t know if he can play right field, Joe. I mean, he’s he played left field mostly, I think. But I think you can make it work if you could. If you could find if you could convince him to take a one year deal, even even. I don’t know. Would would one year 25,000,000. Is that too much? I mean, the market’s gonna be good for him and I. We’re just dreaming here. He’s gonna go somewhere else, but.

Joe Noga 15:19 Yeah, he’s gonna get way more than a one year deal. But at 32, you you gotta wonder. And that’s the thing. That’s he’s around the same age as Jose Ramirez. That’s that’s the thing you’d want to see. Those two guys, you know, play together for for a few years if you could.

Paul Hoynes 15:37 Yeah, no doubt about it, but they need. They need another, you know, an injection of offense. And he would definitely, you know, I bring that I think.

Joe Noga 15:47 See put on your your tinfoil hats and you, you, you put, you put lane Thomas in right field. You put Steven Kwan in center and you put Tasker Hernandez in left. Who says no to that?

Paul Hoynes 16:00 Yeah, I’ll take it.

Joe Noga 16:03 It’s not gonna happen. We all know it’s not gonna happen, but I I mean, come on.

Paul Hoynes 16:05 I know that.

Joe Noga 16:09 Years of of reality checks when it comes to free agency for the for the Guardians have have have sort of tampered our expectations. Just looking a little further down this list. I mentioned you have Shane Bieber here on the list. You’ve got shamaniah at 15 and Shane B. At I believe. Well, you got him tied. You got you got two fifteens here.

Paul Hoynes 16:33 Oh oh, I I screwed up the.

Joe Noga 16:33 Hoynes. What? What the heck? Oh, man. Oh man, you get. We got 2 #15 Sean and I is that mania based on his, you know, late season surge with the Mets.

Paul Hoynes 16:39 Yeah.

Joe Noga 16:45 I gotta believe that they’re gonna open their wallets for him as well, but Bieber’s intriguing just because you know you’re not gonna have him for pretty much half the season.

Paul Hoynes 16:54 Yeah, definitely. I, you know, I think you know I. Was a tough. You know, it was really kind of tough to get my arms around. You know where Bieber would sit on this list? You know, if healthy, you know. Definitely he’s, you know, he’s a prime. You know, can a prime free agent right now, you’ve got to figure in the injury. When’s he going to come back? When’s he going to be able to pitch? When’s he going to be at full go? And I think you would have to anybody who signs him can’t just sign him on a one year deal. They’d they’d have to get an option. So you know you you’d get the as a team. You get the benefit of him not only in 2025, maybe the second-half of 2 thousand 2025, but 2026 as well.

Joe Noga 17:42 Yeah. What’s your your prediction in terms of the number of years that he could get on that deal? Because I’m thinking it’s not gonna be a one year show me deal. I think it’s gonna be a team committing to to three or four years to him in order to get him to sign.

Paul Hoynes 17:58 Wow, that you know and that’s that’s that’s unusual. I don’t think there’s there’s too many cops. You know two. You know the situation that Bieber’s in. I mean, obviously it’s happened. You know, I would think it’d be more than like a one year, one year, one year deal with one year option and maybe a vesting option after that, something like that.

Joe Noga 18:18 Yeah. And at what 13 million last year, you know the price tag goes up considerably.

Paul Hoynes 18:24 Yeah, you you’re going to have to.

Joe Noga 18:24 I would think so.

Paul Hoynes 18:26 Yeah, I would think you know what? Who knows Joe? I mean 1718 between 17 and 20 million, who knows?

Joe Noga 18:34 We get down towards the the bottom of this list and one name that jumps out at me, I guess, jerks and Profar, utility guy, who had a real power surge in in 2024, hit 24 home runs, dropping 85 for San Diego, you know he. Played on a on a one year, $1 million deal. It’s he. He’s an interesting guy, offers that same sort of flexibility that you, you know, that the guardians like, but you just think that. And and would ostensibly be in the price range for what they’re looking for. But you know what do you think the chances are they could target a guy like a jerkson? Profar.

Paul Hoynes 19:14 Yeah, you know, I I think you know, you know, whatever San Diego did, I mean, they got, they got a heck of a heck of a deal this year. I mean, this guy had, you know, he’s he’s, you know, he’s no spring chicken. He’s 31, but he had a career year 28024 home runs, 85 Rbi’s, 94 runs. He stole bases. You know, I would think San Diego would go out of their way to try to keep this guy, but, you know Profar. He fits. He fits. The profile for a for a guardians player. He can play all over the place. He’s got a. He’s got more than a little pop. He’s got some speed, you know. That would be. That would be a nice addition, but I don’t think they’re going to get him for one year at $1 million a year, Joe.

Joe Noga 20:01 No, they would have to spend a little bit more than that, but it it wouldn’t be the kind of money that you would have to to spend on a task or Hernandez or an Anthony Santander or anything like that. So you know, maybe he’s an option. Maybe he’s somebody that they they can look at and try and make something happen there. That’s a that’s a good possibility, all right. That’s going to wrap up a look at the, you know, the the top 30 guys out there. There’s obviously some more on the list, but. Not a lot of sense in in getting into two too many of them, unless anybody else stand out sort of in the bottom half of that list to you? Hoynes, that. That the guardians might be looking for.

Paul Hoynes 20:36 You know, Joe, I was looking at. A guy like. You know Paul digon. I I I really like the way he played last year. We saw him a lot, you know, with Kansas City, with the the White Sox. He showed power. He can play us short. He can play third. Hit what, like 20 four home runs? And he did that. A lot of that on on a bad team. You know, a historically bad team with the White Sox. So I think you know and and that’s a guy, I mean the the guardians have like they have like half the rosters are are are guys like this and I was just you know but they don’t have that power element and he would be an interesting guy to. Me.

Joe Noga 21:21 Yeah, he provides a little more power than a Daniel Schneemann or an anhel Martinez or, you know, guys that that could play multiple positions or or as this is a team with so many middle infielders coming up through the system that you don’t have to pay extra you. Know you could pay them the minimum and not have to worry about it, so it probably save.

Paul Hoynes 21:38 Yeah.

Joe Noga 21:42 They’ll probably save money and and not go after a guy like Paul de Young, but. You know, you never know. It’s he would be a veteran and and a guy who could maybe be a a an influence in the clubhouse as well. All interesting names and all interesting possibilities, but right now we’re not the ones signing the checks. So it’s it’s hard to say. I want to remind our listeners, updates on free agents and any news that we’re hearing. Go first to our Guardian Subtech subscribers. It’s 399 a month to join. You go to cleveland.com/subtext or send a text message to 216-208-4346 to to get updates directly sent to your phone from hoynsie. And for me throughout the season. Only the Platinum Glove Award will be announced tonight in New York. The Gold Glove ceremony, where they hand out the the awards to Andre Jimenez, Steven Kwan. The Gold Glove winners from the Guardians and everybody else on the list will be receiving their awards and the fan voted Platinum Glove winners. Obviously Jimenez, the defending American League Platinum Glove winner emblematic of the best defender in the American League. Pretty tight competition. I’m. I’m gonna assume between Jimenez and Dalton Varsho who won the Fielding Bible overall. Best Defensive Player of the Year in the major leagues. You know the the outfielder for Toronto, those two probably the the top two candidates for the American League Platinum Glove. Jimenez, looking to become the third multiple Platinum Glove winner in the American League. Joining Adrian Beltray and. Matt Chapman, as far as that goes, just. Accolades for Jimenez defensively should be of no surprise to anyone after seeing him as much as we do. You know, 162 games and and we see him playing out there and just. Every day he come to the park and he can do something special. What do you think the chances are that Jimenez repeats as the Platinum Glove winner?

Paul Hoynes 23:55 You know, I think he’s got a chance, Joe. A really good chance. I mean, we’re spoiled, you know, and we’re and I’m prejudice, you know. I’m I. I do not. I can’t look at this, you know, without, I guess, a little bias just because we’ve seen him every day and you know I haven’t seen Var show a lot. You know we we what we see him maybe 6 * a year. So yeah, you know really to me. Jimenez, is is. He’s the gold standard in in middle infielders. Seen him. We’ve he’s done. He does everything in the best second baseman. That’s Warner Cleveland uniform. Since Robbie Alomar, in my mind. And you know, definitely worthy of a second platinum glove.

Joe Noga 24:41 I’ll throw as far as middle infielders go. I’ll throw you know, three names out there and you tell me where Andre Jimenez ranks right now in your mind. And and you know, this is shortstops and 2nd baseman. But Omar Baskow, Francisco Lindor and Robbie Alomar place place. Andres Jimenez. You know, in, in order, somewhere in, in, in among those guys.

Paul Hoynes 25:02 Oh God. Omar Viskel Lindor and Alomar. Oh, my God, that’s that’s those are like the Mount Rushmore’s of.

Joe Noga 25:18 Yeah. Well, we’ll think about it.

Paul Hoynes 25:19 I mean.

Joe Noga 25:20 That right there, that’s that’s four names. You you’re you putting those four guys as your your top four. But but who’s?

Paul Hoynes 25:23 Yeah.

Joe Noga 25:27 What’s the order? What’s your? Who’s the lead dog in that?

Paul Hoynes 25:31 Yeah. Well, I’ve I’ve never.

Joe Noga 25:31 It’s gotta be Omar, right? It’s Omar.

Paul Hoynes 25:32 I’ve I’ve never seen anybody better than Omar. Omar’s gotta be #1. You know the the combination Robbie and. Lindor, the combination of offense and defense you know, you just can’t. You can’t beat that. So that’s two and two A and I’ve got to go with the scal at at at 4th right there. I mean, I mean, I’m sorry, Jimenez. You know right there at at, you know, I think that that that’s the way I’d rate him, but you know.

Joe Noga 25:56 OK.

Paul Hoynes 26:01 You know, I’ve I don’t know. But you know Omar’s definitely #1. And that’s and after that I mean that’s like splitting hairs. After that I mean it that is, that is a tough call, but I guess defensively you you would have to.

Joe Noga 26:17 Yeah, just this is. This is just purely defense. I’m I’m asking about it. If you’re take take the bats out of their hands.

Paul Hoynes 26:19 ‘S purely defense.

Joe Noga 26:23 Just tell me purely defense. Who?

Paul Hoynes 26:24 OK.

Joe Noga 26:25 You’re top four are.

Paul Hoynes 26:26 OK. Purely defense. It’s gotta be the skill. It’s gonna be Alomar, then Jimenez, then Lindor.

Joe Noga 26:36 OK, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll buy that. I would probably put him in his fourth, behind Lindor. In in in my mind, you know, just just because.

Paul Hoynes 26:54 Yeah.

Joe Noga 26:55 And when if Jimenez moves over to shortstop, you know he he could surpass Lindor in that regard. Right now, they both got platinum gloves to their name, so that that kind of thing. But I think Jimenez would probably take it if you if you told him that his countrymen Omar Vizquel is number one and the Hall of Famer Ravi Alomar is number 2, and that you would put him third behind those two guys, I think he would take that, I. Can I can already picture Jimenez with a big smile on his face as we’re telling him this so.

Paul Hoynes 27:27 Yeah. And the thing that Joe, the thing that makes him great is he’s he’s a second baseman with a shortstops arm. You know, that was the same.

Joe Noga 27:28 But.

Paul Hoynes 27:36 That’s what made Robbie Alomar so good. You know, he could have played shortstop ‘cause of his arm strength.

Joe Noga 27:42 Right. And I just between the two, between Jimenez and Alomar, just the way that they get down to the ground and and and smother balls at second base that are destined for the right, for for right field and and can make plays. You know, sort of twisting and and rolling sort of into right field. And and you got to take into account also there was no, you know, prohibition against dropping back in to the grass when Robbie played. They didn’t do it as much when Robbie played. They didn’t over shift as much when Robbie played, but they took that away from Jimenez and it didn’t affect him at all. He’s he’s overcome. You know those shift restrictions and the the rule about having your feet in the dirt when the when the ball is pitched, that that doesn’t seem to have impacted his ability to get to balls at all. I think he’s that that sort of gives him a a leg up in, in my estimation a little bit. There’s there’s probably room for him to to jump past. You know Lindor and and maybe even Alomar someday. Who knows, but that’s a. That’s a big ask. Just enjoy what we’re seeing right now from Andre Semenas in the field. If you’re a. If you’re a guardians fan because it’s, it’s really something to watch. All right. One mention before we get going here. You posted a story about, you know, a question actually came from one of our readers about what they’re going to do with the the seats in at progressive at Progressive Field. That they’re taking out as they’re continuing the renovations. We saw a bunch of the seats behind home plate, you know, changed over to blue seats this past season. The rest of the seats in the ballpark are going to get changed over this year. What’s the the latest on that and and what’s the the chances that you know fans or you know ticket holders will will have a chance to purchase those seats at some point?

Paul Hoynes 29:45 Joey talked to Kurtis Danburg, the man with all the answers with when when it comes to the the restoration of of progressive Progressive Field. He said that that right now as of right now there there’s a limited they’re going to have a limited number of seats available to sell to the public. They they, they’re still kind of formulating the. The details of it. And. It’s there going to be, you know, the obviously the green seats that they’re they’re replacing. But you know it. It had been, you know, ‘cause, this question came up last year too and and they had, you know, the they basically the seats belong to, you know, the Gateway Corporation and they couldn’t.

Joe Noga 30:35 Mm hmm.

Paul Hoynes 30:35 So the the Guardians really couldn’t sell them. But they worked out a deal with Gateway. Have the proceeds from these seats are going to go to Gateway half will go to the Guardian. Charities. But right now the details are still in kind of the still form, you know, formulating. I’m not sure you know how much more you know what, what what you know what the details are. So we’ll have to just wait and see how this unfolds.

Joe Noga 31:04 I’m sure that there are Guardians fans out there who would love to have a a Progressive Field, an original Progressive Field seat as a Christmas gift if that was something that could be worked out. Probably not something that’s in the timeline right now, but maybe for next year. Who knows? It would be a a a possession in a lot of man caves. I think around Northeast Ohio for sure.

Paul Hoynes 31:26 Yeah, they could have them right next to the old stadium seats. ‘cause. We know there’s a lot of those out there.

Joe Noga 31:32 Well, there were a lot of those that were were taken without permission as well in the the final Browns game, so who knows.

Paul Hoynes 31:35 Yeah.

Joe Noga 31:39 Alright, hoynsie, that’s gonna wrap up today’s edition of the Cleveland Baseball Talk podcast. We will check in awards season will be in full swing with the BBWAA finalists announced early next week. We will talk to you then and have all the details.

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